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Post by northerntomcat on Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:33 am

Just saw this a few seconds ago,Janey is there anything on this?

(Unconfirmed) American journalist working for @nytimesglobal died #feb14 #Bahrain
9 minutes ago via web
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Post by Joe Bese on Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:42 am

northerntomcat wrote:Just saw this a few seconds ago,Janey is there anything on this?

(Unconfirmed) American journalist working for @nytimesglobal died #feb14 #Bahrain
9 minutes ago via web

Hope that wasn't Nick Kristof. He's pissing them off, I'm sure:

Blood Runs Through the Streets of BahrainBy NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: February 17, 2011

As a reporter, you sometimes become numbed to sadness. But it is heartbreaking to be in modern, moderate Bahrain right now and watch as a critical American ally uses tanks, troops, guns and clubs to crush a peaceful democracy movement and then lie about it.

This kind of brutal repression is normally confined to remote and backward nations, but this is Bahrain. An international banking center. The home of an important American naval base, the Fifth Fleet. A wealthy and well-educated nation with a large middle class and cosmopolitan values.

To be here and see corpses of protesters with gunshot wounds, to hear an eyewitness account of an execution of a handcuffed protester, to interview paramedics who say they were beaten for trying to treat the injured — yes, all that just breaks my heart.

So here’s what happened:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18kristof.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212
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Post by northerntomcat on Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:00 am

Joe Bese wrote:
northerntomcat wrote:Just saw this a few seconds ago,Janey is there anything on this?

(Unconfirmed) American journalist working for @nytimesglobal died #feb14 #Bahrain
9 minutes ago via web

Hope that wasn't Nick Kristof. He's pissing them off, I'm sure:

Blood Runs Through the Streets of BahrainBy NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
Published: February 17, 2011

As a reporter, you sometimes become numbed to sadness. But it is heartbreaking to be in modern, moderate Bahrain right now and watch as a critical American ally uses tanks, troops, guns and clubs to crush a peaceful democracy movement and then lie about it.

This kind of brutal repression is normally confined to remote and backward nations, but this is Bahrain. An international banking center. The home of an important American naval base, the Fifth Fleet. A wealthy and well-educated nation with a large middle class and cosmopolitan values.

To be here and see corpses of protesters with gunshot wounds, to hear an eyewitness account of an execution of a handcuffed protester, to interview paramedics who say they were beaten for trying to treat the injured — yes, all that just breaks my heart.

So here’s what happened:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/opinion/18kristof.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212

This line caught my eye right away.

"(By many accounts, Saudi tanks and other military forces participated in the attack, but I can’t verify that)."

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Post by Aetius Romulous on Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:39 am

It is almost certain that it is Nick Kristoff - he was tweeting frantically and then it just stopped. His last tweet was that the hospital was under attack.

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Post by Janey on Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:52 am

I can confirm that the troops are opening fire heavily with kill shots at various locations now, final tally of dead is likely to be massive!

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Post by Janey on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:03 am

latest: security forces refusing to allow medical personnel to treat wounded saying they will shoot any medical staff that try and assist

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Post by Janey on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:05 am

President Obama's statement. He said: "I am deeply concerned by reports of violence in Bahrain, Libya and Yemen. The United States condemns the use of violence against peaceful protesters in those countries, and wherever else it may occur." The statement was read out on his presidential jet, Air Force One, while Mr Obama was flying from California to Oregon.

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Post by Janey on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:08 am

reports: now firing into crowd from helicopter gunships

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Post by Tangy on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:10 am

Janey wrote:I can confirm that the troops are opening fire heavily with kill shots at various locations now, final tally of dead is likely to be massive!

Crying or Very sad
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Post by Janey on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:13 am

latest is 50-60 shooting victims, firing ongoing.

hospitals are asking for international intervention

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Post by goodmockingbird on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:14 am

Janey wrote:reports: now firing into crowd from helicopter gunships

AJE just now interviewed a Bahraini physician by phone.

He described multiple victims with gunshot wounds from overhead entry (ie, being fired at from above)
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Post by northerntomcat on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:46 am

I suppose that the free world could refuse landing right to ALL flights from Bahrain for starters as well as kick out all diplomats. But on the other hand they could kick the 5Th fleet out.

By the sound of things they are in flagrant violation of the Geneva convention.
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Post by goodmockingbird on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:07 pm

northerntomcat wrote:
By the sound of things they are in flagrant violation of the Geneva convention.

Snipers using a helicopter platform to shoot peaceful civilians in the head, and gunning down medical staff performing first aid upon the fallen -- if that's not outside of Geneva convention, then I don't know what is.

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Post by Janey on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:24 pm

the King of Bahrain has called for urgent dialogue with all parties - AP

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Post by goodmockingbird on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:29 pm

Janey wrote:the King of Bahrain has called for urgent dialogue with all parties - AP

'Dialogue', in this case, probably best translates as 'Delay while we channel assets through shell corporations and ship the gold out'.
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Post by Joe Bese on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:32 pm

Janey wrote:the King of Bahrain has called for urgent dialogue with all parties - AP

Seems like a "cease-fire" should preceed dialogue, IMO.
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Post by northerntomcat on Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:42 pm

Ya call in the crown prince now eh,brilliant!

HE was probably the one who gave the orders to shoot! Kinda like having the fox in charge of the hen house.
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Post by cab123 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:14 pm

northerntomcat wrote:Ya call in the crown prince now eh,brilliant!

HE was probably the one who gave the orders to shoot! Kinda like having the fox in charge of the hen house.

I believe we may see a Suadi- US take over shortly to straighten this out,sanctioned by the UN, these actions will not be tolerated
for long especially in Bahrain. IMHO
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Post by goodmockingbird on Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:29 pm

cab123 wrote:
I believe we may see a Suadi- US take over shortly to straighten this out,sanctioned by the UN, these actions will not be tolerated
for long especially in Bahrain. IMHO

In its own way, Bahrain is every bit as internationally significant as Egypt's Suez.

IMHO the US government is doing us no favors by backing the despotic royal families of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Trying to conduct "business as usual" with corrupt hereditary monarchies might have worked for a while, but it has outlived its usefulness.

The writing is on the wall.
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Post by cab123 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:50 pm

goodmockingbird wrote:
cab123 wrote:
I believe we may see a Suadi- US take over shortly to straighten this out,sanctioned by the UN, these actions will not be tolerated
for long especially in Bahrain. IMHO

In its own way, Bahrain is every bit as internationally significant as Egypt's Suez.

IMHO the US government is doing us no favors by backing the despotic royal families of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia. Trying to conduct "business as usual" with corrupt hereditary monarchies might have worked for a while, but it has outlived its usefulness.

The writing is on the wall.

Mbird,I'm not in agreement with a lot of things we've done in the past (resent included),but this entire situation in mid east area IS getting quite dangerous.This is quickly becoming a Pro-Anti democratic regional war situation.And to my best recollection that has Always ended badly for most peaceful people involved.Military takeovers are going to happen more and more.Just depends on whose side there on.
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Post by Desert Fox on Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:00 pm

cab123 wrote:
northerntomcat wrote:Ya call in the crown prince now eh,brilliant!

HE was probably the one who gave the orders to shoot! Kinda like having the fox in charge of the hen house.

I believe we may see a Suadi- US take over shortly to straighten this out,sanctioned by the UN, these actions will not be tolerated
for long especially in Bahrain. IMHO
AGREED.
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Post by Mexico1 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:08 pm

Bahrain doesnt deserve to be a UN member nation. Not only because of the monarchy's behavior, but also because a little tiny island that has a mercenary foreign army to suppress the small amount of residents is more akin to a pirate colony.

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Post by cab123 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:19 pm

Mexico1 wrote:Bahrain doesnt deserve to be a UN member nation. Not only because of the monarchy's behavior, but also because a little tiny island that has a mercenary foreign army to suppress the small amount of residents is more akin to a pirate colony.

those are facts. Just like owned by and paid for Sadui and US.Your point being?
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Post by Mexico1 on Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:26 pm

Mexico1 wrote:
Bahrain doesnt deserve to be a UN member nation. Not only because of the monarchy's behavior, but also because a little tiny island that has a mercenary foreign army to suppress the small amount of residents is more akin to a pirate colony.



those are facts. Just like owned by and paid for Sadui and US.Your point being

Good point, the Saudi monarchs should be held to account for what is happening in Bahrain. The US? Well I am sure they have hospital services on one of their warships. They should offer it since the one in the so called capital is over burdened...

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